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248: Easter Egg Driven Development
This week is launch week for Rafa! We talk about all of the details behind the new version of Hand Mirror.
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247: No Teddy Bears Were Harmed in the Making of This Layout
This week we talk about Kevin's camera purchase, Panic's Playdate and Rafa gives us an update on Handmirror.
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246: The Porcelain Expanded Universe
2 weeks makes the world of a difference. We share our updated takes on the ongoing Twitter saga, Kevin continues to obsessively research cameras and Rafa talks about his work on Hand Mirror.
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245: You Haven’t Finished Your Caprese
This week we inevitably talk about Twitter, discuss Rewind—the search engine for your life, and finally briefly touch on why seemingly everyone hates Humane.
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244: It Takes Me 5 Minutes, But I Can Read
This week we talk about our experience hanging out together in person in Portugal last week, discuss the ideal camera now that we're spoiled by iPhones, in a shocking turn of events Rafa gets a new Apple product and finally we discuss the Sketch layoffs.
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243: My UI Doesn’t Jiggle Jiggle
This week we deep dive into designing for the Dynamic Island and discuss our thoughts on the Google Event announcements.
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242: Figma x Adobe
This week we talk about Figma being acquired by Adobe, and give our thoughts on the new iPhone 14 Pro after using it for a few days.
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241: Dynamic Hole
This week we talk about Apple's latest announcements: the Apple Watch Ultra and the iPhone 14 Pro.
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240: Dementors Are Just Misunderstood
This week we discuss the new Gmail Redesign and Kevin gives his review of After Steve.
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239: Free Range Baby
This week we talk about launching Along and give an update on Kevin's adoption of lock screen widgets.
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238: Stage Manager, First Impressions
As promised, this week Rafa gives us his first impressions of Stage Manager in macOS Ventura.
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237: Launching Until
This week we dive deeper into the launch of Until, Kevin's newly released app for iOS and watchOS.
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236: Shame Driven Development
This week we go through some of the details that we missed in our WWDC episode, and Kevin has a special announcement!
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235: Big Dub Dub Energy, with Joey Banks
This week, we are joined by special guest Joey Banks to talk about Apple's WWDC 2022 announcements: iOS 16, watchOS 8, macOS Ventura, iPadOS 16, and the newly designed M2 MacBook Air.
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234: Designing Auto Layout, with Joel Miller and Oscar Nilsson
Kevin is out this week, so Rafa is joined by special guests Joel Miller and Oscar Nilsson from Figma to talk about their work designing Autolayout V4.
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233: This One Is The Ewwest
This week we celebrate the life of the iPod by ranking our favorite and least favorite iPod industrial designs.
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232: Gridients, Because We’re So Clever
This week we talk about our first impressions of the new Figma features introduced at Config 2022, and what they mean for us as designers.
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231: Chewable UI
This week we continue our discussion on app icons and go deep on the icon picker UI Rafa designed.
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230: Aladdin’s Magic Rug
This week we talk about Kevin's foray into designing something for work, then get an update from Rafa about some of his furniture decisions, and Rafa shares his explorations for Along's app icon design.
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229: Center Stage of Attention
This week we talk about spending in-person time with your team, one of us has an official statement about the Studio Display, and we check in on Until, Kevin's side project. We also discuss our thoughts on Severance, the best show on Apple TV+.
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228: Focus Mode, for the Camera
This week we talk about Kevin's Studio Display woes, webcams and dive into roll out strategies for launching a new iOS app.
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227: I Think Most People Don't Care
This week, Rafa gives us an update on his talk proposal, which leads into a conversation about bringing delight into our work, we then get into more on the Studio Display and cable management.
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226: Honey I Shrunk The Designers
This week, we deep dive into Apple’s “Peek Performance” event, most notably the Studio Display.
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225: I Can See the Flexbox In My Head
This week we talk about strategies for bringing more dev into your design process... even when that's not expected of your role as a designer.
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224: Pleading My Case to the Figma Gods
This week we talk about bringing fun into your work.
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223: Babies Be Babying
This week we talk about Rafa's new hobby and Apple's Tap to Pay on iPhone.
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222: Download an MKBHD
We're finally back after our extended holiday break! This week we catch up, talk about the challenges of interior design, and get into why you shouldn't feel bad if you don't get the job after an interview.
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221: 2021 Year in Review
This week we reflect on 2021, then get into a conversation about what we'd like to be known for and finally discuss how we'd like to grow in 2022.
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220: Figma's Redesigned Comments, with Ryhan Hassan
This week, we're joined by friend of the show Ryan Hassan, designer at Figma, to tell us all about how they've redesigned Comments.
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219: Great Auto Layout Responsibility
This week we follow up on all of the feedback we got about the "new" Layout website and then talk about how a tweet about autolayout ended up being way more controversial than we thought.
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218: Human Machine Learning
This week we nerd out about our new website. While things look mostly the same, we rewrote all of the code and are now using a CMS to make posting episodes easier.
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217: Are you a Kevin or a Rafa?
This week we talk about career paths and Kevin gets into his experience managing managers.
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216: MAX: Make Animals Xtinguished
This week we talk about learnings from our previous work experiences and then discuss a few macOS onboarding quirks.
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215: A Very Bond Villainy Thing To Do
Rafa got his new MacBook Pro, so of course we dive right into his thoughts on the new machine. We also talk about our favorite company swag.
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214: Do You Use A Computer? STOP
This week we follow up on our MacBook Pro orders, address the design drama of the day and get into a conversation about the future of design tools.
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213: Maxed Out M1 Max Mac
This week we briefly touch on Rafa's new job before jumping into our thoughts on the newly announced M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros.
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212: I’m Siri’s Cousin (BONUS)
We're back! We catch up on everything Rafa released since our last episode, and Kevin gives his first impessions on the iPhone 13 Pro.
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211: [chirpbirdiconbirdie]
This week we talk about Twitter's visual evolution and the drama surrounding 1Password's move to Electron.
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210: A Floaty URL Bubble
This week's episode is all about the iOS 15 Safari redesign (and the changes in the following beta builds).
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209: Just One Blog Away
We're back! Rafa not only has a new baby but also a new app in the App Store! We talk about some of the details of the app, touch on how side projects are different when you have a newborn and eventually talk about Until, the app Kevin has been working on but probably will never release.
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208: Filling Your Ears, with Joey Banks
This week we are joined by special guest Joey Banks to talk about Apple's WWDC announcements and give some of our thoughts on the design decisions behind these new releases of iOS, iPadOS, macOS and more.
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207: I Can Never See the Extra Ks (feat. David Darnes)
This week we welcome our reporter out in the field, David Darnes, to tell us about his hands on experience with the new iMac.
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206: Your Phone Talking to Pluto
This week is all about Google IO, Material You, Project Starline and more! We also share details about some subtle tweaks we've made to our website and artwork.
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205: PRAM For Your Baby
This week we catch up on a lot of follow up about Apple TV Calibration, AirTags, whether our thoughts about the new iMac have changed and finally open up the pandora's box of ponchos.
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204: Designing FigJam, with Jenny Wen and Kee Yen Yeo
This week we are joined by Jenny Wen and Kee Yen Yeo from Figma to talk about the behind-the-scenes of designing FigJam.
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203: That Mini-LSD Thing
This week we briefly touch on Config 2021 and some of Figma's announcements, and then dive into Apple's Spring Loaded announcements: Apple Podcasts subscriptions, AirTag, Apple TV (remote), iMac and iPad Pro.
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202: I Noticed the OLEDness
This week we talk about taking your work presentations to another level, speculate about Apple's Spring Loaded event, and give our wishlist for WWDC 2021.
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201: By the Way… I Have a Job
This week we talk about using opacity in text colors when designing for light/dark mode, give our thoughts on Apple Fitness+ and get into Rafa's Hand Mirror woes.
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200: They Have Kombucha!
This is our 200th episode! We talk about Kevin's experience working from an office for the first time in over a year, getting into 3D modeling, Android 12 leaked screenshots and the new PS5 VR controller.
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199: Weird Fleet But Ok
This week we check in on Rafa's first 6 months at Superlist, then talk about managing emotions at work, balancing side projects & a day job and Twitter Super Follows.
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198: My Siri Ball
This week we talk about the best follow up we've ever received, go through more of the macOS shortcuts we couldn't live without, and we give our hot take on Clubhouse and Twitter Spaces.
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197: Cheat Sheet Schitt's Creek
This week we follow up on last week's topic: talking about how different parts of the deisgn lifecycle can influence your mood, bluetooth issues, iOS 14.5 Beta Apple Watch unlock (when you're wearing a mask), computer literacy and more!
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196: I Can See All The Rectangles In My Head
This week we talk about our struggles with explaining ideas and concepts at the beginning stages of a project, designing in low fidelity, Big Sur App icon replacements and more!
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195: It's Not Blow Away
This week we talk about the challenges with onboarding onto a new team... even after being at the same company for 7 years, Tweetbot 6 and more!
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194: It Ran Into The Wall of Reality (with Brian Lovin)
This week we are joined by special guest Brian Lovin to talk about his new side project, staff design and more!
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193: I’m the Yoda Now
This week, Rafa gets a Leica Q2 and we nerd out about photography. We talk about whether or not people like Rafa should buy a camera, what to look for when you're considering getting a camera, our personal editing workflows and more!
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192: Varying Degrees of Lockdowness
We round out the year by reflecting on 2020 and the growth that came with the hardship and how this year has shaped the technology landscape.
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191: Ariana Conde
This week we discuss filling out interview questions, Rafa's Apple Pro Display XDR and the AirPods Max.
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190: Let's Face It, One Of Us Is Weird
This week we talk about rugs, showering with your watch on, Fleets and more. It's a weird one.
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189: Inside Sketch 70 (with Freddie Harrison and Sam Beckett)
This week we welcome special guests Freddie and Sam from Sketch to go in depth on how they redesigned Sketch from the ground up to adopt the new Big Sur design language.
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188: Big Surtified
This week we talk about Apple's One More Thing event: the M1 chip, the new MacBook Air, MacBook Pros and share more of our thoughts on Big Sur's UI.
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187: Friends of Podcasting as a Whole
This week we talk about importing design ideas and Google's controversial new icons.
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186: Photoshop for Motorcycles (feat. Frederique Matti)
This week Rafa receives his new iPhone 12 Pro and we are joined by special guest Frederique Matti who tells us about the new Illustrator for iPad.
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185: A Waterfall of Hand-Me-Downs
This week we talk about Apple’s “Hi, Speed” event and the products they announced: iPhone 12 and HomePod Mini.
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184: Get As Naked As You Can
This week we discuss Google's Launch Night In event and Rafa gets his MCU multiverse theory on record.
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183: I’ve Known You Since Your Twitter Profile Picture
This week we start by talking about beards and accidentally get into a philosophical conversation on whether we get more “right” as we get older. We also discuss Sketch's Big Sur teaser icon to make sure we don't lose our design podcast license. This one's a wild ride.
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182: TikTok Riots
This week we talk about watch face design, homescreen customization and another app Kevin's never going to actually ship.
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181: Wear Your Face For a Day
This week we spend two hours discussing a one hour event.
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180: Reset the PRAM on Your Car
This week, Rafa talks about his roadtrip experience and Kevin talks about the app he's been working on as a side-project.
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179: Infinite Pagination
This week's episode is all about how to leave your job the right way. We talk about Rafa's experience leaving Netlify and being intentional about career choices.
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178: I Get All Kinds of Ponchos
This week we debate whether every website should have infinite scrolling, Rafa gets a green screen AND gets married, we talk about Instagram and Rafa's Great Poncho Incident™, YouTube Premium and more!
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177: Like a Little Hammock
This week we talk about desk setups, Apple vs Fortnite and Thwhip's launch!
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176: I’m In the Nile
This week we talk about heatwaves, Thwip's app store rejections, the Big Sur Beta, whether cats can feel the wind from fans, and Rafa critiques Kevin's video framing.
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175: Peripheral Widgets
This week we talk about taking breaks when you need them, how our photo libraries still have a discoverability problem and Kevin wants to upgrade his video setup.
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174: I’m the Creator and I Pronounce It 'Too-th-weep'
We're sorry about the delay in posting this episode, but we knew you were willing to wait for it. History has its ears on our show this week. We finally talk about broadway hit sensation, Hamilton. It's a shorter show than usual: we're trying to talk less, smile more. We know some of you were looking forward to this conversation, this is the podcast where it happens. I hope you're satisfied.
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173: Chair Twitter
This week we talk about Rafa's new Apple Watch app, office chairs, whether Kevin should've gotten a chair with arms or no arms and more!
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172: A Karen Got My Handle
This week we talk about learning FOMO, Kevin's unsolicited Overcast redesign and more!
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171: You Wouldn’t Download a Car
This week, we're joined by ADA-winner and creator of Blackbox, Ryan McLeod. We talk about Apple's 2020 WWDC announcements: iOS 14, watchOS 7, macOS 11 and more!
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170: Just Do Stripe Again
This week we debate whether it's essential to enjoy using a product or not.
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169: Design Tools Must Go On
This week we talk about old Apple Keynotes, the new Framer, criticizing products with love and more!
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168: Feed It Now But Yesterday
This week, Rafa hacks his pet feeder and we nerd out about programming.
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167: Something As Trivial As a Butter Thing, with Matthaeus Krenn
This week we are joined by special guest Matthaeus Krenn to talk about prototyping new types of interfaces, his work on VR-OS, residential architecture and more!
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166: Kevin, It floats!
This week we’ve decided to be podcasting pioneers and recorded this episode entirely on an iPad. Well two iPads to be more precise. We each have our own iPad. Other topics include: Kevin's quick thoughts on the Switch, writing long case-studies and more!
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165: A Russian Doll of Topics
This week we talk about some apps that try too hard, Rafa's Handmirror app, Uncharted 4 (welcome to 2016!) and finally discuss the design of new PS5 game controller because Layout is a gaming show now apparently.
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164: Black Cupcakes Are a Design Thing
This week's episode is an episode out of time. Kevin is joined by special guest Kassandre Jenkins to talk about design events, working from home, homemade pizza and more!
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163: Big Baby Web
This week we talk about COVID-19, social-distancing life, Rafa's new app: Hand Mirror, the new iPad Pro, the new iPad Magic Keyboard and pointer support in iOS. We end the episode with Kevin's gaming corner.
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162: Designers Just Wanna Have Fun
This week we catch up on the latest design drama, neumorphism and editing podcasts on the iPad.
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161: Past & Future of Sketch, with Pieter Omvlee
This week we welcome special guest Pieter Omvlee, to talk about the past, present and future of Sketch.
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160: Siri’s a Snitch
This week we take some time to catch up, talk about Kevin's upcoming move and then dive into our goals for 2020.
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159: Recommendation Bonanza 2020
This week we go all out with an entire episode jam-packed with recommendations.
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158: Kylo Ren Going Through a Divorce
This week we follow up on the latest Sketch announcements, talk about guilt as a metric and finally discuss Parasite, our favorite film of the year.
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157: Both Are Valid, but One Is Clearly Wrong
This week we talk about the Cybertruck, Cocoon, the latest Sketch news and trying out Castro.
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156: You Can See the HDRness
This week, we decided to not talk about the new MacBook Pro and instead talk about Rafa's tweets about Figma, the Github for iOS beta and Kevin's homescreen.
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155: Three Medium Logos Ago
This week we talk about the consternation over the death of the web (and whether it's iOS's fault), FACEBOOK's new logo and the trailer for the Rise of Skywalker.
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154: Evil by Osmosis
This week Rafa gives his early look at Nova, the new app from Panic, and we attempt to discuss the latest design drama: Pablo Stanley's free illustrations and the launch of Facebook News.
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153: Of Course There’s No Nuts in It
Kevin's back! Topics include Kevin's talk, Kevin's new website, Kevin's new side project, and Kevin's trip to Italy. Oh and something about NFC stickers.
Play Episode 152: The Linguistics Podcast, With Frederique Matti
Frederique is back! This week Rafa and Frederique talk about design and gaming on Windows, their complicated relationship with Dark modes and whether or not Frederique should get an Apple Watch.
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151: I Wanna Honk Right Now, With Frederique Matti
This week, Rafa is joined by special guest: Frederique Matti. We talk about freelancing and career experiences, Microsoft's new hardware announcements and internet usernames.
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150: showerdingus.design
Rafa's back! We talk more about coffee routines and automation, deep fusion, the Rams documentary and more.
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149: Excited for Tomorrow's Coffee, With Joey Banks
This week, Kevin is joined by special guest: Joey Banks. We talk about Figma plugins, electric scooters, our sleep schedules, coffee, and our thoughts on the iPhone 11 / 11 Pro.
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148: Kevin Is Optional
This week we discuss Apple's September event where they introduced Apple Arcade and Apple TV+ for the third time, iPads nobody care about, the always-on Apple Watch Series 4 and the iPhone 11 and 11 Pro.
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147: Kids Will Ruin Everything
We're back! We talk about what happened since our last episode. Topics include: speaking at conferences, Break This Safe, Figma plugins, iOS 13 and our thoughts on the iPhone 11 rumors.
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146: It’s Podcasts All the Way Down
This week we follow up on SwiftUI and talk about our own personal challenges. We then talk about the new Dropbox app and episode 1 of Big Little lies Season 2.
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145: I’m Not a Big Fan of Fans
This week the episode is all about Apple's 2019 WWDC announcements: watchOS 6, iOS 13 and Dark Mode, iPadOS, the new cheese-grater Mac Pro and the outrageously expensive Pro Display XDR.
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144: I Feel Like Oprah
This week we talk about our job interviews that didn't work out and what we took away from these experiences. We also talk about Playdate, going all in on the USB-C lifestyle and how books might not work.
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143: I Don’t Actually Design Design Anymore
This week we talk about feeling impostor syndrome as a manager and Dark themes vs Light themes.
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142: Force Ghost Rafa
This week we talk at length about the Facebook redesign. We also finally talk about The Rise of Skywalker trailer.
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141: The Coffee of TV Shows
This week we talk about how sometimes you have to be irrational to make something great. We also circle back to Rafa's Avengers Endgame predictions.
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140: Blue Yeti’s Blue Ball
This week we talk about why it seems like we're seeing fewer and fewer UI innovations and how there might hopefully be a silver lining in all of this. We also discuss Figma's UI refresh.
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139: This Table Is Not Actually a Table, It's a Staple
This week Kevin has a contrarian opinion on the Staples logo reveal video and we talk about John Maeda's comments on the importance of design. Finally, Rafa gets his theory about Avengers Endgame on the record.
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138: Finger Touching Bono and Stuff
Short show this week. We follow our tradition of picking apart the details of Apple's announcements: News+, Arcade, Card and TV+.
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137: If There’s an Android, There’s a Way
This week, Rafa tells us all about his recent experience using Android for a few weeks: what he liked, what he didn't like and we finish by answering some listener questions.
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136: Return of the Mac Apps
This week the internet gods blessed us with a ton of design-related news just in time for our recording. We talk about Sketch's new funding announcement and what it means for the world of design tools, Twitter's new camera UI, privacy-focused social networks and the return of Mac apps.
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135: Look at That Page Curl
This week we talk about org structures and how it affects us as designers. We also talk about the Revolut drama and Apple News' new upcoming app icon.
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134: You Should Outsource Walking
This week we talk a bit more about foldable phones, how Slack is messing with our homescreen again, and then ultimately get into a big conversation about which things in our life we'd like to outsource.
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133: Mario, the Plumbing Influencer
This week we talk about growing up to become your parents, getting emotional, the pitfalls of fame, Samsung's foldable phone and more.
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132: There’s No Edit Button in Podcasting
This week Rafa shares two lessons he's learned as a first time manager, then we talk about some recurring trends in design student portfolios.
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131: The Kids on TikTok Are Not Complaining
This week we talk about Kevin’s experience giving a big talk and then we talk about our evolving relationship with social media.
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130: Lukewarm Takes
The wait is over! We know you couldn't wait for our takes on the new Slack logo and boy we've delivered. We also talk about the state of criticism on the Internet.
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129: With Great Title Comes Great Responsibility
This week we talk about Rafa becoming the head of design at Netlify, setting expectations for a new role, CRMs for people, sonic toothbrushes and kitchen knives.
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128: The Artist Formerly Known as Follow Up
This week we eat breakfast. Lots of it. We discuss Rafa’s already obsolete TV, pos-purchase monetization and the impact on consumers, the death of privacy and Kevin finally gives an update on his new portfolio that was supposed to ship months ago.
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127: The Monday of the Year
This week, Rafa is back on Twitter and Kevin takes this opportunity to fill him in on all of the design news he missed like the Push Pin Emoji Detour meme, the horizontal Instagram feed debacle, a study on the impact of Flat Design and Pantone’s new color of the year. Oh and we also talk about Bandersnatch.
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Holiday Special: I Hate Moist Zombies
It's a holiday miracle! As a special bonus episode for the Holidays, we play a zombie text adventure game. We're joined by special guest Débora Ribeiro.
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126: Layouties 2018
Our third annual Layouties! We look back at some of our favorite things of the year and give them awards.
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125: Imagine a Coconut With a Straw
This week we talk about being busy & the impact it has on us, tech companies making custom typefaces and IRL accessibility problems.
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124: The Dark Side of the Web
This week we talk about approaching large scale design problems, Kevin's email rant, Facebook's Blueprint for Content Governance and Google's Night Sight.
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123: Design Is How It Reads
This week we talk about Rafa's totally predictable purchase, the growing realization that most design problems are actually content problems, pop songs getting more repetitive and Amazon employees buying condos in Long Island City.
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122: Freaking Chamfered Edges
Kevin is back from San Francisco, so we finally talk about our first impressions on the new iPad Pro, the Detective Pikachu trailer and the new Leica Q-P.
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121: Millennial Kidnappers
This week we follow up on genderless pronouns in different languages (or lack thereof) and talk about what we would do if we weren't designers.
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120: Titles Are Our Legacy
This week we talk about the realities of traveling for work, Photoshop on the iPad, Adidas's 'new' webdesign style, the Palm phone and we have a very special upside down.
Play Episode 119: Figma Just Got Paddie 2ed
This week we briefly continue our discussion about design tools, then talk about custom Apple Watch Faces, the Habitat 67 architecture and of course, our recommendation of the week.
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118: 5/5 Would Alive Again
This week we talk about a few main design tools: Adobe XD, InVision Studio, Framer X, Figma and Sketch.
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117: X AM
This week we got to record in person from Amsterdam. We talk our experience at Framer Loupe, Rafa's new Apple Watch, and Solo (hopefully for the last time).
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116: The Court of Design
This week we talk about the Apple Event, Apple Watch Series 4, iPhone Xs and Xs Max and the iPhone Xʀ.
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115: The Opposite of Async
This week we talk about open offices, the Mastodon client we're working on and more punishment suggestions for Kevin.
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114: Chance the Raptor
This week we talk about Kevin's punishment for not shipping his website, how all advice is kind of terrible and Rafa explains Mastodon for the rest of us.
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113: Decentralized Instances of the Thing
This week we talk about the sad state of Twitter and our desire for something to come and replace it.
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112: So Far So Nada
This week we talk about Kevin's experience leading a new team and the challenges that came with it.
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111: Make Excessively Sentimental
This week we talk about our thoughts on sugar coated design feedback and Firefox's new brand system.
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110: Controlled Chaos
This week we discuss the topic of creativity, what inspires us and how we cultivate it. We also briefly discuss our early thoughts on Framer X based on the announcement.
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109: Sharpening an Axe to Break a Twig
This week we talk about problems. How do you know you truly understand them? When is the right time to jump into solution mode? We also briefly talk about Solo: A Star Wars Story.
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108: There's Some Lag
How do you stay motivated by working on a mature and large project? How do you handle working in a language that isn't your native language? How do you decorate your apartment? This week we answer more listener questions!
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107: The Show Show Show of the Show
Should your portfolio have long UX case studies or focus on lots of imagery? How do you know when you have too much on your plate and how do you push back confidently? This week we answer some listener questions, review some socks and finally talk about the Westworld finale.
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106: Layout Redesign Your Website Month™
This week we talk about the challenges with onboarding new designers onto your team, the official "Layout Redesign Your Website Month™" and episode 9 of Westworld season 2.
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105: The Flat Wing
This week Rafa redesigned his website, so we revisit the topic of personal websites, setting goals for side projects, todo list management techniques and Kevin's thoughts on museum design. We also discuss episode 8 of Westworld season 2.
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104: iOS 7 Was Leggings (With Special Guest Tim Van Damme)
This week we're joined once again by special guest Tim Van Damme to talk about how UI design is fashion, and Apple's WWDC 2018 announcements: iOS 12, macOS Mojave and watchOS 5.
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Bonus: Westworld Special (S02E04/05)
As promised, this is our special episode discussing episode 4 and 5 of Westworld season 2. We're joined by special guest Débora, Rafa's girlfriend.
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103: Regular Mundane Mediocre Socks
This week Kevin join Rafa in person in Porto for this IRL episode. We talk about what's wrong with A/B tests and spend way too much time discussing socks.
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102: Design Commander
This week we talk about what qualifies a designer as a senior designer, how Google Duplex might not be that creepy after all, Jony Ive's controversial Hodinkee interview and of course, episode 4 of Westworld season 2.
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101: Designer Spidey Sense
This week we tackle the topic of learning design. We also talk about the swipe up gesture in instagram, opinionated design and episode 3 of Westworld season 2.
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100: 100th Episode Fiesta
Layout turns a hundred episodes old so we invited some listeners to join us to talk about sustaining side projects. We also talk about how the show started and of course: everyone's recommendations.
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99: Spoiler Police
This week we talk about what is the best way to showcase UX work in a portfolio, letting your personality show in your work and on social media and exploring other design-adjacent interests. We also discuss the first episode of Westworld season 2.
Play Episode - Personal
98: Family of Feels
This week we talk about Impostor Syndrome, quitting social media for a week and Ready Player One.
Play Episode - Listener questions
97: Longer Story Long
This week we answer some listener questions. Topics include: OKRs, 1:1s, and performance reviews.
Play Episode - Career
96: April Jokes Day
How do you know when it's time to leave your company? While neither of us want to quit our job, we talk about our past experiences making these career moves.
Play Episode - Gear
95: United Shades of America
This week we talk about the gear we use to do our work (desk, chairs, computers, etc.)
Play Episode - Productivity
94: Is Rafa Stupid?
This week, we talk about being busy and how this is something we actively try to avoid. We also have some important shower dingus follow up, spend way too much time talking about the color of tennis balls and finally discuss our thoughts on Sketch 49.
Play Episode - Titles
93: Hot Shower Take
This week we talk about the meaning of design titles (or lack thereof). We also finally talk about Black Panther.
Play Episode - People
92: Being Humble… Sit Down
This week we talk about traits we look for in the people we work with, and that Vero app.
Play Episode - Design
91: The Dotcoms
This week we talk about the differences between marketing design and product design.
Play Episode - Design
90: Connect the Lines
This week we talk about how your personality can influence your design style and whether or not being "type-cast" is a bad thing. Also, Kevin finally caved in and bought a HomePod.
Play Episode - Hiring
89: Shower Dingus
This week we talk about hiring designers and having to review other people's portfolios, HomePod reviews and... shower handle design.
Play Episode - Product
88: I Have to, for Science!
Launching our sticker store, dogfooding your own products and the mystery that is the HomePod.
Play Episode - Personal
87: Homer Simpson in the Bushes
This week we talk about introversion and how it affects different aspect of our life and work.
Play Episode - Side Projects
86: Everything You Said Is Wrong or Whatever
This week we talk about shipping side projects, not just working on them. We also talk about waking up early, sleep tracking and briefly touch on DARK (the Netflix show).
Play Episode - Design
85: The Benjamin Button of UI
This week we talk about how challenging it is to keep adding new features without compromising on simplicity.
Play Episode - Vacations
84: Title Fishing
As we're coming back from our holiday break, this week our topic is vacations. We address unlimited vacation policies, that feeling of guilt that sometimes comes with taking vacations and our tricks for disconnecting.
Play Episode - Misc
83: 2017 Layouties
As always, we close out the year by rounding up and giving “awards” to our favorite things of the year.
Play Episode - Bonus episode
Jedi Don't Wear Underwear
In this bonus episode, Kevin and Rafa talk about the new Star Wars movie: The Last Jedi. A 3h long, spoiler filled, holiday special.
Play Episode - Ethics
82: The Last Handcrafted Tweetstorm (feat. Joel Califa)
This week we are joined by our friend Joel Califa to talk about the evolution of the designer role and the ethical dilemma of being a corporate designer. Joel is a product designer at GitHub, previously leading the design team at Digital Ocean.
Play Episode - Growth
81: Homescreen Designer
This week we explore how do you grow in your career as a designer?
Play Episode - Remote work
80: Design Mustard
What it's like to work remotely, Rafa's shopping problem continues and... paperclips.
Play Episode - Meetings
79: Meat-ings
The main topic for this week: Meetings. And for our side dishes, we talk about how we feel about Stranger Things 2.
Play Episode - Team Work
78: Banning the Rays
What to do when you disagree with someone on your team and our first impressions of the iPhone X.
Play Episode - Personal
77: Let’s Talk About Something Fun
For our main topic we talk about feeling like time is running out — getting old, with some iPhone pre-orders for side dishes.
Play Episode - Misc
76: Holy “Design Tools” Cow
Looking back at your old work, and hating what you see. Also, InVision Studio and the state of design tools.
Play Episode - Process
75: Software Spring Cleaning™
This week we talk about process and try to pin down what makes certain processes good and others bad.
Play Episode - Shipping
74: I Have a Beef With Entrées
Our main topic this week is: How to make sure what you ship is not a crappier version of what you envisioned. We also talk a bit about the #MadeByGoogle event and Libraries in Sketch 47.
Play Episode - Feedback
73: Should Designers Ego?
We've made the show better! More focus on design topics and a better onboarding for new users. Our main topic this week is how to receive design feedback. Of course, we also talked a bit about the Dropbox redesign.
Play Episode - Misc
Wake Me Up When September Ends
After two years of making weekly episodes, one full year with Spec, it's time to regroup and think of how we can improve our show. We have some exciting ideas in the works, but we would really appreciate it if you could spare a couple seconds to give us some feedback.
Play Episode - Apple
72: Can You Feel the Ring Tonight?
This week we cover the new iPhone X, iPhone 8, and all the goodies from the most recent Apple event.
Play Episode - Apple
71: Professional Driver
Sketch Libraries, Framer's new website and our Keynote draft for Apple's September 12th event.
Play Episode 70: It's the Aesthetics, Man
Pixel Perfection, Rafa’s viral video technique™, our homescreens, and Kevin's London adventure.
Play Episode69: It's on the Troll (with Michael Flarup)
This week Rafa and Kevin are joined by Michael Flarup to talk about public speaking and the newly released Speakerdex!
Play Episode68: Do You Stand With Fontstand?
This week we talk about the state of purchasing fonts, HomePod firmware leak, and that Google memo.
Play Episode67: How Do You Like Stuff?
Our personal design processes, design in an agile environment, getting ideas for side projects, and of course: iPhone rumors.
Play Episode66: Ninja Links Everywhere (With Special Guest Sam Soffes)
This week Rafa and Kevin talk about Contrast for Mac, and indie Mac development with a very special surprise in the middle.
Play Episode64: Swipe Wars
Kevin's iOS 11 design refresh, giving Dribbble a second chance, and a lot of talk about furniture.
Play Episode63: AR Needs Its Blackberry Moment
Designing for the future with AR, and the 10th anniversary of the iPhone.
Play Episode62: Randommendations
The new Design mode in Framer, Twitter's design update, winning the Shopify Hack Days and our thoughts on A Cure for Wellness.
Play Episode61: Crowdsourced Burritos (With Special Guest Ryan McLeod)
Rafa and Kevin are joined by Ryan McLeod to talk about iOS 11, Apple Design Awards, and a lot more. Ryan is the creator of the iOS game Blackbox which just won an ADA 🎉
Play Episode59: Devil's Avocado
When a design "feels wrong", iOS 11 concept video and the winner of our giveaway!
Play Episode57: Busted Board (Feat. Zooey Bechamel)
This week Rafa and Kevin go over the popular NYT quiz "Which Tech Giant Would You Drop?".
Play Episode56: That’s Sticker Official
This week Rafa and Kevin talk about what goes into a big launch, the prep, the release, and what comes after.
Play Episode55: With Our Powers Combined (With Brian Lovin and Bryn Jackson)
In this very special episode, Kevin and Rafa are joined in person by Brian Lovin and Bryn Jackson from Design Details to talk about Spectrum, working with friends, and a 30 minute recommendation bonanza.
Play Episode54: Desktop HD Copy 46
Our first ever Layout meetup, Designing in Components, Rafa's dotfiles adventure, Instagram Collections and The Last Jedi.
Play Episode53: Boredumness
This week Rafa and Kevin talk about the future Mac Pro, Figma's new pricing, Dropbox's redesign and Dribbble + Crew. There's also a very important announcement at the end 🎈
Play Episode52: The Hero of Stories Remakes
Rafa bought a switch, of course. Also: We follow up on Electron apps, Rafa goes viral, Apple releases a Christmas phone, and Kevin discovers Westworld.
Play Episode51: The Electron Uprising
Our review of Kite Compositor, the Electron uprising on the desktop and whether or not Stories is a format.
Play Episode50: Rafa Duh
This week Rafa and Kevin talk about rolling out a gradual redesign, the new Offscreen magazine, rumored new iPads and share their Apple software wishlist.
Play Episode49: Brian Lovin on My Shoulder
Following up from last week, we continue the discussion of IC vs Manager, and what comes with the manager hat.
Play Episode48: Spelling UX
Going from Individual Contributor to Manager/Lead. Also, Oscars' screw up and the winner of our Sketch Handbook giveaway.
Play Episode47: Chrome’s Chrome
Abstract, the “new” MacBook Pro, setting up new computers and Kevin's adventures in San Francisco.
Play Episode46: Unpronounceable Smart Lights
Being good at one thing vs being ok at a lot, the new Framer.com and the original iPhone.
Play Episode45: A Header, a Modal, a Footer, Are You Getting It?
Presenting and selling your work. Also, Dribbble gets acquired, Juventus's new logo, Shopify Summit and Slack threads.
Play Episode44: I Dream of San Francisco
Feeling tired, and feeling guilty of feeling tired. Also: the crazy expectations of the Bay Area and Imposter Syndrome.
Play Episode43: I Want More Toys
This week we go over our plans and resolutions for this new year, and HealthKit and Home Automation.
Play Episode42: 2016 Layouties
We end the year with our grand annual LAYOUTIES, an award show in which we present awards to the best of the year.
Play Episode41: Keep Up With My Viral Tweet
Kevin's gone viral, Out of office hours, Figma's new components, keeping up with the latest trends/technologies and a special announcement.
Play Episode40: Should Designers Vlog?
The automation of design tools, AIs taking over, and our design podcast recommendations.
Play Episode39: A Movie for Your Brain
Rafa's Rant™, ending your side-projects and our thoughts on UX vs UI.
Play Episode38: Hashtag Design Drama
Should designers have a porfolio?, Designed By Few 2016, Sketch 41 and Black Mirror S03E03.
Play Episode37: Magic Touch Pad Bar
New MacBook Pros, Apple getting out of the standalone display business and Black mirror S03E02.
Play Episode36: This Is the Future
Working nights and weekends, PlayStation VR and episode 1 of Black Mirror.
Play Episode34: Give Me a Lightsaber and I'm Happy
What we carry in which pocket, Google announces its new Pixel phone and Samsung acquires Viv.
Play Episode33: An Airbnb on Mars
Spectacles, Figma 1.0, Twitter being bought, DJI's new drone, and SpaceX announcement.
Play Episode32: I'm Feeling the FOMO
We still haven't received our iPhones, Black vs Jet Black, Stripe's new website and the Leica Q.
Play Episode31: Courage
We geek out over Apple's September announcements: Apple Watch series 2, iPhone 7 and the AirPods.
Play Episode30: Everyone's Drunk
Dark patterns, 'Even over' statements and the iPhone 7's rumored dual camera system.
Play Episode29: Crap Is Part of the Process
Instapaper joining Pinterest, whether or not 4 AM is our most productive hour, design livestreams and Kevin's Twitter Doppleganger.
Play Episode28: One Hour Long Trailer
A special announcement, Design Disruptors, Duo and designing with a vision.
Play Episode27: No One Taught Me Emoji in School
Title case vs Sentence Case, Instagram Stories and Stranger Things.
Play Episode26: I Have Velcro Shoes and Pokémon
Rafa gets sherlocked and we give tips for how to make the most of feedback sessions.
Play Episode25: You Have to Literally Walk
The vlogging and Youtube scene, slowing down apps by design, designing in public, Shopify’s UX Summit and of course Pokémon Go.
Play Episode24: Thanks Obama!
We start by talking a bit more about Apple Music in iOS 10, but ended up talking about consistency vs pushing boundaries in design.
Play Episode23: Stop Calling the iPhone a Phone (With Special Guest Tim Van Damme)
We are joined by Tim Van Damme to talk all about Apple's WWDC 2016 announcements.
Play Episode22: Listen-bait
Conversational UIs, Kevin is building a bot, Pulls for macOS, and Rafa gets a new job.
Play Episode21: It’s Hard to Bake Gradients
Our take on Google I/O: Daydream, Allo, Duo, Home, Android N and more!
Play Episode20: I Connect When I’m Drunk
Instagram goes monochrome, Apple Music and Spotify design changes and Microsoft's new hover gestures.
Play Episode19: Break This Safe Industries
Rafa's new Apple Watch game and some of the challenges that a designer goes through while building an app.
Play Episode18: Faceless Layout FM Company
Origami Studio, syncing and sharing Sketch files with a team and the pros and cons of using a personal account versus a separate account for posting design work.
Play Episode17: Make Apple Music Great Again
The all new Framer, Spotify v. Apple Music, and the new Rogue One trailer.
Play Episode16: No One's Trying to Make a Shitty Website
How to work and collaborate with developers and how to make sure your designs and expectations are followed-through.
Play Episode14: I Love Taxes
The differences between independent, freelance, agencies, product companies and why you'd choose one over the other.
Play Episode13: We Don’t Have Geniuses in this Country
Uber's rebranding and Twitter's hypothetical algorithmic timeline.
Play Episode12: Major Lazer Used Figma
Our design process, more thoughts on Figma and the Shopify Summit.
Play Episode11: I’m a Sucker for Updates
Desktop Neo, rethinking the desktop interface and Dribbble Playbook.
Play Episode10: California Style Sheets
The future of Sketch and the story of how we got where we are today.
Play Episode9: Sketch It's Not You, It's Me
Designing in code, MacBook vs iPad pro as a secondary machine and Icon Design Awards.
Play EpisodeStar Wars Special
The Force Awakens is finally here. We talk about the many things we liked, the few things that we didn't like and how we're so happy that Star Wars is back.
Play Episode7: Mailbox is the new Rdio
Design interviews, Mailbox officially shuts down, how we feel about personal websites and Apple's ugly new battery case.
Play Episode5: Fifty Shades of White
Public Speaking, Photo editing apps, using the iPad Pro to design and a eulogy to Rdio.
Play Episode4: That Little Swipey Thing
RIP Ember, Twitter favorites (err likes) and the new Apple TV UI
Play Episode3: It Has a Dinosaur So I Like It Already
Microsoft's autocomplete for animation, robots taking your job, and being a jack of all trades.
Play Episode2: What's a Radio?
Twitter's latest announcements, Paper by Dropbox, YouTube Red, Framer's interesting new pricing model and the new Star Wars trailer.
Play Episode1: I Wish I Could Force Touch This
Our take on Medium's latest design changes, Kevin's Apple Watch app is now in beta and Rafa gets his new iPhone.
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