To our listeners,
8 years ago, we decided to try to start a show about design, technology and everything else. We’ve always been big listeners of podcasts and wanted an excuse to nerd out about all of the topics we’re passionate about. 256 episodes and over 350 hours of conversations later, we’ve made the tough decision to end our show. Layout has been such a beautiful and unexpected source of joy in our lives for all this time and that is thanks to you.
















Through doing the show, we discovered a wonderful community full of smart, and kind individuals like you. You’ve welcomed us into your homes and your hearts and for that we will forever be grateful. It’s been the pleasure of a lifetime for us to accompany you as you were doing the dishes, walking the dog or commuting to work.
As we like to say, Layout has been our most successful side project ever and this show meant a lot to us. Who knows what the future holds, but thank you for coming along with us for the ride with us.
- Farewell256: Audio AsteriskIt's with a heavy heart that we announce that we're going to be saying farewell to the show. We talk through why we wanted to do the show in the first place, and making the difficult decision to end it after 8 years. View Show Notes
- Apple255: Fist Sized Button, with Matthaeus KrennThis week we are joined by best friend of the show, Matthaeus Krenn to go deep on Apple's Vision Pro. View Show Notes
- Apple254: Milanese Battery BeltThis week we go over what we think Apple will announce at WWDC and capture our thoughts on Apple's much-rumored upcoming VR headset, ahead of the event in two weeks. View Show Notes
- Art253: Designer to Artist, with Frederique MattiThis week, Rafa is joined by special guest Frederique Matti, to talk about her move away from tech into art. View Show Notes
- 3D252: Adventures Learning 3DThis week, Kevin talks about his experiences learning 3D modelling and switching from Cinema 4D to Blender. Play Episode
- Industry251: A Love FormThis week we talk about the vibe shift in the technology industry, how it affected us and our advice for designers. Play Episode
- Technology250: How Do We Feel About AI?This week we talk about our feelings about AI and ChatGPT. Play Episode
- Personal249: Wear Those Numbers as a Badge of HonorWe're back! This week we catch up on what happened in our lives since the last episode and talk about our plans for season 3 of the show. Play Episode
- Side Projects248: Easter Egg Driven DevelopmentThis week is launch week for Rafa! We talk about all of the details behind the new version of Hand Mirror. Play Episode
- Technology247: No Teddy Bears Were Harmed in the Making of This LayoutThis week we talk about Kevin's camera purchase, Panic's Playdate and Rafa gives us an update on Handmirror. Play Episode
- Misc246: The Porcelain Expanded Universe2 weeks makes the world of a difference. We share our updated takes on the ongoing Twitter saga, Kevin continues to obsessively research cameras and Rafa talks about his work on Hand Mirror. Play Episode
- News245: You Haven’t Finished Your CapreseThis week we inevitably talk about Twitter, discuss Rewind—the search engine for your life, and finally briefly touch on why seemingly everyone hates Humane. Play Episode
- News244: It Takes Me 5 Minutes, But I Can ReadThis week we talk about our experience hanging out together in person in Portugal last week, discuss the ideal camera now that we're spoiled by iPhones, in a shocking turn of events Rafa gets a new Apple product and finally we discuss the Sketch layoffs. Play Episode
- Technology243: My UI Doesn’t Jiggle JiggleThis week we deep dive into designing for the Dynamic Island and discuss our thoughts on the Google Event announcements. Play Episode
- Design Tools242: Figma x AdobeThis week we talk about Figma being acquired by Adobe, and give our thoughts on the new iPhone 14 Pro after using it for a few days. Play Episode
- Apple241: Dynamic HoleThis week we talk about Apple's latest announcements: the Apple Watch Ultra and the iPhone 14 Pro. Play Episode
- Design240: Dementors Are Just MisunderstoodThis week we discuss the new Gmail Redesign and Kevin gives his review of After Steve. Play Episode
- Design239: Free Range BabyThis week we talk about launching Along and give an update on Kevin's adoption of lock screen widgets. Play Episode
- Apple238: Stage Manager, First ImpressionsAs promised, this week Rafa gives us his first impressions of Stage Manager in macOS Ventura. Play Episode
- Side Projects237: Launching UntilThis week we dive deeper into the launch of Until, Kevin's newly released app for iOS and watchOS. Play Episode


